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	<title>Comments on: Khuda Kay Liye - In the Name of God</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Naveen</title>
		<link>http://journal.naveeng.com/2008/05/05/khuda-kay-liye-in-the-name-of-god/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Naveen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sana. The movie is indeed thought provoking and I'm myself looking forward to watching it again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sana. The movie is indeed thought provoking and I&#8217;m myself looking forward to watching it again!</p>
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		<title>By: Sana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and another Pakistani movie "Ramchand Pakistani" is soon to be released.  I am looking forward to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and another Pakistani movie &#8220;Ramchand Pakistani&#8221; is soon to be released.  I am looking forward to it!</p>
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		<title>By: Sana</title>
		<link>http://journal.naveeng.com/2008/05/05/khuda-kay-liye-in-the-name-of-god/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Sana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that this is an excellent movie that makes you think about issues like racism, stereotypes, prejudice, hating someone because of their religion, ethinicty, or country that they may belong to.  The issues that are pertinent in our society.  
I watched this movie last year in Chicago, where the theater was packed! Since then, I have seen it 3 times already and everytime, its a new experience.  Its a thought provoking drama focusing on other issues as well like being a Muslim living in a foreign country (like myself), trying to balance two cultures at the same time.  
Thanks Naveen for an excellent review!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that this is an excellent movie that makes you think about issues like racism, stereotypes, prejudice, hating someone because of their religion, ethinicty, or country that they may belong to.  The issues that are pertinent in our society.<br />
I watched this movie last year in Chicago, where the theater was packed! Since then, I have seen it 3 times already and everytime, its a new experience.  Its a thought provoking drama focusing on other issues as well like being a Muslim living in a foreign country (like myself), trying to balance two cultures at the same time.<br />
Thanks Naveen for an excellent review!</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kamran i think Junaid is free to hate or like something? Who are you or anyone like Shoaib to poke nose in his business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kamran i think Junaid is free to hate or like something? Who are you or anyone like Shoaib to poke nose in his business?</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
		<link>http://journal.naveeng.com/2008/05/05/khuda-kay-liye-in-the-name-of-god/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kamran: If What all said by Shoaib about Junaid was TRUE then why did he try to hide his truth by removing his own statement from official website. I later found his extreme statement against Junaid. Shoaib thought that he trained Junaid thus Junaid has become his property, he can't go against Shoaib's will as if Junaid was his slave. that shows pathetic mentality of Shoaib. It was pathetic and extreme that's why he tried to hide later to show himself a moderate while infact he's not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kamran: If What all said by Shoaib about Junaid was TRUE then why did he try to hide his truth by removing his own statement from official website. I later found his extreme statement against Junaid. Shoaib thought that he trained Junaid thus Junaid has become his property, he can&#8217;t go against Shoaib&#8217;s will as if Junaid was his slave. that shows pathetic mentality of Shoaib. It was pathetic and extreme that&#8217;s why he tried to hide later to show himself a moderate while infact he&#8217;s not!</p>
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		<title>By: Naveen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naveen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 06:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kamran,

That's indeed a very valid and lovely point made by you - &lt;strong&gt;CONTEXT&lt;/strong&gt; is the most important force in deciding right or wrong. A thought which I myself have been following while judging people, incidents etc. Irrespective of religion, cast, social status etc., if something &lt;strong&gt;DOES&lt;/strong&gt; good and &lt;strong&gt;DOES NOT&lt;/strong&gt; cause any harm, then there can't be any reason for that act to be a subject of ire.

As for the topic of Shoaib Mansoor's way of reacting by making a movie based on Junaid, I feel its the greatness of that man which is reflected in his act of making a movie and trying to make a point which &lt;strong&gt;HE FEELS&lt;/strong&gt; is right. It would be natural for any person to get shattered seeing his protege parting ways (for good or bad, whatever), without even telling him, let alone asking or consulting. And only a man with lots of patience and character, can restrain himself from reacting violently or in a manner which insults, belittles or makes a mockery of his dear one. Shoaib Mansoor's movie did none of this, rather tried to educate people around the world about what &lt;strong&gt;HE&lt;/strong&gt; thinks should be the constituents of a truly religious and encompassing society.

I'll post further views on Adnan's Blog.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kamran,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s indeed a very valid and lovely point made by you - <strong>CONTEXT</strong> is the most important force in deciding right or wrong. A thought which I myself have been following while judging people, incidents etc. Irrespective of religion, cast, social status etc., if something <strong>DOES</strong> good and <strong>DOES NOT</strong> cause any harm, then there can&#8217;t be any reason for that act to be a subject of ire.</p>
<p>As for the topic of Shoaib Mansoor&#8217;s way of reacting by making a movie based on Junaid, I feel its the greatness of that man which is reflected in his act of making a movie and trying to make a point which <strong>HE FEELS</strong> is right. It would be natural for any person to get shattered seeing his protege parting ways (for good or bad, whatever), without even telling him, let alone asking or consulting. And only a man with lots of patience and character, can restrain himself from reacting violently or in a manner which insults, belittles or makes a mockery of his dear one. Shoaib Mansoor&#8217;s movie did none of this, rather tried to educate people around the world about what <strong>HE</strong> thinks should be the constituents of a truly religious and encompassing society.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post further views on Adnan&#8217;s Blog.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Naveen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naveen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 06:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adnan,

Yes I wanted to make a few points with regard to your blog post. But unfortunately didn't get the time to do so.

Thanks for the correction. Well, actually I saw on Wikipedia that the inspiration behind Junaid Jamshed was Maulana Tariq Jamil, so I presumed he must have been the subject played in the movie as well. Please excuse my lack of knowledge about the characters and people involved.

As for your point about Shoaib Mansoor retracting from his statement, I'll post my opinions and queries on your blog post, later today.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adnan,</p>
<p>Yes I wanted to make a few points with regard to your blog post. But unfortunately didn&#8217;t get the time to do so.</p>
<p>Thanks for the correction. Well, actually I saw on Wikipedia that the inspiration behind Junaid Jamshed was Maulana Tariq Jamil, so I presumed he must have been the subject played in the movie as well. Please excuse my lack of knowledge about the characters and people involved.</p>
<p>As for your point about Shoaib Mansoor retracting from his statement, I&#8217;ll post my opinions and queries on your blog post, later today.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Kamran</title>
		<link>http://journal.naveeng.com/2008/05/05/khuda-kay-liye-in-the-name-of-god/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Naveen,

I do not think I agree with Adnan Sidiqi's posts there. I think each and every person has the right to express his or her views provided the views are not a) enforced and b) the views are not driven on violence.

Shoaib Mansoor responded to Junaid Jamshed's actions in the most honest manner by creating this relevant film. It was indeed wrong of Junaid to hate music imho. As it is shown in the movie, if music is used for good, it is good.. if music is used for bad purposes, it is bad.. when it comes to 'right' and 'wrong', the context is important.. if i use a knife to cut apples, its fine to use a knife.. but if i use the same knife to cut somebody's throat, its of course idiotic, dangerous and a sinful act..

God always helps those who bear the light.. and this is the reason Shoaib Mansoor won, this is the reason his message (in the form of this movie) has reached so many people.. and it is because Shoaib Mansoor's message that so many people have changed their views about Pakistan and Muslims...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Naveen,</p>
<p>I do not think I agree with Adnan Sidiqi&#8217;s posts there. I think each and every person has the right to express his or her views provided the views are not a) enforced and b) the views are not driven on violence.</p>
<p>Shoaib Mansoor responded to Junaid Jamshed&#8217;s actions in the most honest manner by creating this relevant film. It was indeed wrong of Junaid to hate music imho. As it is shown in the movie, if music is used for good, it is good.. if music is used for bad purposes, it is bad.. when it comes to &#8216;right&#8217; and &#8216;wrong&#8217;, the context is important.. if i use a knife to cut apples, its fine to use a knife.. but if i use the same knife to cut somebody&#8217;s throat, its of course idiotic, dangerous and a sinful act..</p>
<p>God always helps those who bear the light.. and this is the reason Shoaib Mansoor won, this is the reason his message (in the form of this movie) has reached so many people.. and it is because Shoaib Mansoor&#8217;s message that so many people have changed their views about Pakistan and Muslims&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
		<link>http://journal.naveeng.com/2008/05/05/khuda-kay-liye-in-the-name-of-god/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Naveen

thanks for visiting my blog. I though you would be coming back with questions. :)

you said:

&lt;i&gt;
who is said to depict the real life Maulana Tariq Jamil, and foregoes
&lt;/i&gt;

Actually it was said later that Molana Sami-ul Haq was targeted who is considered main force of Taliban.

if you read &lt;a href="http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/08/01/shoaib-k-liye-webmaster-removed-the-link-of-directors-statement-from-main-page-of-kkl/" rel="nofollow"&gt; this&lt;/a&gt; postof mine, you will find out that shoaib later try to hide his own statement since his statement was taken as an extremist and intolerant point of view against Junaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Naveen</p>
<p>thanks for visiting my blog. I though you would be coming back with questions. <img src='http://journal.naveeng.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>you said:</p>
<p><i><br />
who is said to depict the real life Maulana Tariq Jamil, and foregoes<br />
</i></p>
<p>Actually it was said later that Molana Sami-ul Haq was targeted who is considered main force of Taliban.</p>
<p>if you read <a href="http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/08/01/shoaib-k-liye-webmaster-removed-the-link-of-directors-statement-from-main-page-of-kkl/" rel="nofollow"> this</a> postof mine, you will find out that shoaib later try to hide his own statement since his statement was taken as an extremist and intolerant point of view against Junaid.</p>
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		<title>By: Naveen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naveen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 09:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite="saeka"&gt;&lt;p&gt;As u wrote ;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;would like to correct u here that the movie depicts not Muslim society But the&lt;br /&gt;
Taliban Society or the talibanisation of Pakistan &#38; Afghanistan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also u talk about intensity of fanaticism in ur 2nd last paragraph..&lt;br /&gt;
i would like u to refer to the happenings in middle east, the conflict between Palestine -Israel.. u will definitely get an idea of more fanatic people than the Muslim extremist.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it may be a good movie(bcoz i havent seen it) &#38; it depicts a certain society &#38; situation…its important to convey the happenings in the world to a greater audience &#38; cinema is definitely a great medium.
hats off to the movie-maker but we as audience should also be responsible enough&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

1) The movie certainly shows the Talibanisation of Pakistan &#038; Afghanistan, but it also shows Muslim characters outside of Pakistan &#038; Afghanistan, for example in UK, who are driven by the so-called Taliban ideology and commit heinous crimes in the name of being a true Muslim. Again, let me repeat, this is what is shown in the movie, and once you see it, you'll understand what I mean. On the other hand, if Talibanisation of people is taking place in such a large scale, unfortunately, the message which any average human is getting is that the whole society is getting affected, even if it is not.

2) You may be absolutely correct in saying that we can see more fanaticism than Muslim extremists, in middle east, but here for once, let's put aside rivalry between 2 religions, or countries or groups. Lets think about fanaticism which prevails within every religion and deeds which are done in the name of religion which harm one's own people. When it comes to this, then probably, unfortunately Muslim extremists are way ahead. Obviously such insaneness also exists in Hinduis, Judaism, Christianity etc. Again this is my personal thought, which you or anyone else might beg to differ on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="saeka"><p>As u wrote ;</p>
<p>would like to correct u here that the movie depicts not Muslim society But the<br />
Taliban Society or the talibanisation of Pakistan &amp; Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Also u talk about intensity of fanaticism in ur 2nd last paragraph..<br />
i would like u to refer to the happenings in middle east, the conflict between Palestine -Israel.. u will definitely get an idea of more fanatic people than the Muslim extremist.</p>
<p>it may be a good movie(bcoz i havent seen it) &amp; it depicts a certain society &amp; situation…its important to convey the happenings in the world to a greater audience &amp; cinema is definitely a great medium.<br />
hats off to the movie-maker but we as audience should also be responsible enough</p>
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<p>1) The movie certainly shows the Talibanisation of Pakistan &#038; Afghanistan, but it also shows Muslim characters outside of Pakistan &#038; Afghanistan, for example in UK, who are driven by the so-called Taliban ideology and commit heinous crimes in the name of being a true Muslim. Again, let me repeat, this is what is shown in the movie, and once you see it, you&#8217;ll understand what I mean. On the other hand, if Talibanisation of people is taking place in such a large scale, unfortunately, the message which any average human is getting is that the whole society is getting affected, even if it is not.</p>
<p>2) You may be absolutely correct in saying that we can see more fanaticism than Muslim extremists, in middle east, but here for once, let&#8217;s put aside rivalry between 2 religions, or countries or groups. Lets think about fanaticism which prevails within every religion and deeds which are done in the name of religion which harm one&#8217;s own people. When it comes to this, then probably, unfortunately Muslim extremists are way ahead. Obviously such insaneness also exists in Hinduis, Judaism, Christianity etc. Again this is my personal thought, which you or anyone else might beg to differ on.</p>
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